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GreenDaemon
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Ben definately did say Mass buying was against the rules, at least twice I think.
He also smited Thandar for doing so, I believe.. unless Thandar was saying something on guild chat that deserved a smite.
Ben didnt demand Ixon declare Oat the winner.. He just suggested it might be nice if he gave Oat his prizes.
He also smited Thandar for doing so, I believe.. unless Thandar was saying something on guild chat that deserved a smite.
Ben didnt demand Ixon declare Oat the winner.. He just suggested it might be nice if he gave Oat his prizes.
Fon wrote:GreenDaemon wrote:Ummm... when did he say that? Wouldn't have been very fair, since I certainly never saw him say it. Here or in game. (And it should have been done in both.)
I was about to ask the same
Since when did I have to be fair? What version of Valorn have you all been living in?
From the comment above about "this is a contest run by Ixon!" I guess they also missed my broadcast about how Ixon does not run this universe. He was mistaken to suggest people create tons of items, make a mess of things, and slow down the game. I simply announced that the winner must be somebody who was playing the game normally... and from that point on, I didn't notice any extreme buying sprees, so I didn't feel the need to announce again. If somebody new had started up, I would have mentioned it again.
It ended up being found by somebody playing normally, anyway, so this is all a non-issue.
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GreenDaemon
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It would have been very misguided and unfair though (whether you actually care if it was or not, doesn't change the fact), in the sense that people thought it was perfectly valid.. and those that logged on after those particular broadcasts would never have had a clue, might've obtained the item, and then been disqualified for what was supposed to be fine, if not encouraged.
::Shrugs:: All I'm saying, is it should've been posted here as well.
I never said Ixon runs the universe. I tend to believe quite the opposite, as a matter of fact.
But it was his contest, so as far as anyone would have thought, he was making the rules, and it really didn't seem at the time like anything he said violated the rules.
::Shrugs:: All I'm saying, is it should've been posted here as well.
I never said Ixon runs the universe. I tend to believe quite the opposite, as a matter of fact.
But it was his contest, so as far as anyone would have thought, he was making the rules, and it really didn't seem at the time like anything he said violated the rules.][ Player's name = Azure ][
Because they are not able to be dropped?
I try to gather as many of the things that are droppable so that they do not become lost. *shrugs* Such as a certain sword Skurria still has.
I try to gather as many of the things that are droppable so that they do not become lost. *shrugs* Such as a certain sword Skurria still has.
"Ixon collects pretty much for the joy of collecting. He's fairly straight up for a scoundrel, double dealing, profiteering rogue. 
" - Hacken
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GreenDaemon
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If that's the view on it, you can say that museums offline are useless too.. they're not helping anyone, except as things to look at. Take it you're not a museum fan, Cerb.
Personally, I don't know why some people are negative about the museum. I think it's an awesome idea and have seen Ixon shell out tons of plat for things most people would consider useless.. like a scroll that simply has a cool set of numbers, for a strange instance.
What is so wrong with that? It's pretty cool, in my eyes, that someone is willing to put all of that effort into it and are doing something they enjoy and TRYING to make something for others to enjoy as well.
Personally, I don't know why some people are negative about the museum. I think it's an awesome idea and have seen Ixon shell out tons of plat for things most people would consider useless.. like a scroll that simply has a cool set of numbers, for a strange instance.
What is so wrong with that? It's pretty cool, in my eyes, that someone is willing to put all of that effort into it and are doing something they enjoy and TRYING to make something for others to enjoy as well.][ Player's name = Azure ][
No, I'm certainly not negative about the museum. I'm just saying that if the goal is to save things for the good of Trinald, maybe a pile of mercenary swords would be nicer to pass around guilds (his own guild even) than sit in a bank.
Ixon likes having cool stuff. I can't fault him for that. But, there are a lot of people that run around the game who have never had a unique item, title, quest, or event.
The value in these things is that they're rare and/or unique, far more than however useful they can be in game. Some players would love to have a Mercenary Sword just because it is something you don't see on every Sally Sunshine and Paulus Ringbottom.
Ixon has a good bunch of them, no? And, he apparently only values them at 75 P. He also got smited quite a few times for underpaying newbies for them who didn't realize that would probably be their only chance at a rare item. I reckon they'd be worth a good deal more than 75 P to any player who's been here a few months (years) and not had the opportunity for such an item.
His museum is a great idea for the community. However, his collecting cannot be but for himself.
Congratulations to those who through luck, longevity, or perchance even true merit of some form get these things that are so valued. Then, may they thank Ixon for buying up everything else so their rare gem is worth all the more.
Ixon likes having cool stuff. I can't fault him for that. But, there are a lot of people that run around the game who have never had a unique item, title, quest, or event.
The value in these things is that they're rare and/or unique, far more than however useful they can be in game. Some players would love to have a Mercenary Sword just because it is something you don't see on every Sally Sunshine and Paulus Ringbottom.
Ixon has a good bunch of them, no? And, he apparently only values them at 75 P. He also got smited quite a few times for underpaying newbies for them who didn't realize that would probably be their only chance at a rare item. I reckon they'd be worth a good deal more than 75 P to any player who's been here a few months (years) and not had the opportunity for such an item.
His museum is a great idea for the community. However, his collecting cannot be but for himself.
Congratulations to those who through luck, longevity, or perchance even true merit of some form get these things that are so valued. Then, may they thank Ixon for buying up everything else so their rare gem is worth all the more.
What kind of game would you make?
"I'd make a game about sarcasm and farce and put Cerberus in charge. =D" ~ Ben of Admin
"I'd make a game about sarcasm and farce and put Cerberus in charge. =D" ~ Ben of Admin
Ixon does let other people from the guild use items. *shrugs* Not the ones that other people have donated to the museum, as that is not his place, but the ones he has bought himself - yes. He used to let other people have them but after a series of people a) leaving the game without giving them back, b) accidentally destroying them or c) pretending to lose them and keeping them stashed in their bank for months on end, he made the decision to keep it guild only. The nature of Twenty Two is such that we are close enough to be able to share rares without fear of permanent loss of an item.
As for the mercenary swords and their 75 plat value, these are not unique items. That quest has been run at least twice, and probably will be run again. Hence the lower (yet still high, for what they are) value on these weapons.
Yes, the museum started because Ix loves to collect. No, of course I'm not saying that it is 100% altruistic - very few actions actually are. He takes enormous pleasure in owning or care-taking unusual or rare items, but also equal pleasure in safe-guarding the history attached to them. Yes, he has been smitten before for the actions you described, but that was before he married me and now he wouldn't dare do such a thing. The wrath of gods and fear of the wrath of his wife have taught him a valuable lesson.
As Danica said, the value of an item is not determined by its material or its purchase cost. It is determined by its place in history. An almost worthless scroll to us is -was - worth the equivalent of 2500 plat. If it is greedy to wish to possess that in order to mark it with a place and description in this museum, then I too am guilty of that particular sin.
Of course we love collecting (I include myself in that, and feel qualified to write this because many months with Ix have taught me much about both the rares business and the history of Trinald) and enjoy possessing items that we view as special for whatever reason. I make no apology for it. But the reason we do view these items as so special, and the reason Ix devotes time, plat and energy in purchasing for and referencing the museum, is because we care deeply about Trinald, its past, and preserving that for the future.
As for the mercenary swords and their 75 plat value, these are not unique items. That quest has been run at least twice, and probably will be run again. Hence the lower (yet still high, for what they are) value on these weapons.
Yes, the museum started because Ix loves to collect. No, of course I'm not saying that it is 100% altruistic - very few actions actually are. He takes enormous pleasure in owning or care-taking unusual or rare items, but also equal pleasure in safe-guarding the history attached to them. Yes, he has been smitten before for the actions you described, but that was before he married me and now he wouldn't dare do such a thing. The wrath of gods and fear of the wrath of his wife have taught him a valuable lesson.
As Danica said, the value of an item is not determined by its material or its purchase cost. It is determined by its place in history. An almost worthless scroll to us is -was - worth the equivalent of 2500 plat. If it is greedy to wish to possess that in order to mark it with a place and description in this museum, then I too am guilty of that particular sin.
Of course we love collecting (I include myself in that, and feel qualified to write this because many months with Ix have taught me much about both the rares business and the history of Trinald) and enjoy possessing items that we view as special for whatever reason. I make no apology for it. But the reason we do view these items as so special, and the reason Ix devotes time, plat and energy in purchasing for and referencing the museum, is because we care deeply about Trinald, its past, and preserving that for the future.
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