Titles for other professions (not including myself)

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Re: Titles for other professions (not including myself)

Postby superduck » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:19 pm

Luke Darkshadow wrote:If there is no need for titles then why do Iron Knights need theres? My other point on this Paragraph is that not everyone can strive to be an Iron Knight because only warriors are allowed, which i do not find cool. So as an Enchanter, rogue or a cleric what is there to strive for title wise, a contest that you hopefully win and the gods give you a title based on what you did. Thats a long shot in my eyes because most of the contest that you win titles and such you have to be very involved in the game like more than usual and not everyone is, but some are by choice and some are not do to RL. Like i would love to be involved in DG more and all the things that go on in it like the contest and the festivals but because of RL i am unable to. Should those that do not play DG all the time be punished for not being able to participate in contest or be as active as the Iron Knights require to join the group? Should that truly be what you have to do to get a title? I dont think so. I see the title thing a very promising RP thing in DG because you would have to earn it and not through contests or activity though it would help. But as long as you did what was expected of you then i see nothing wrong with being honored a title and as long as you continued to do your role you got to keep the title but if you didnt then it could be takin away from you.
superduck wrote:Really, what is the need for titles and stuff? If we (as a community) want to show someone our appreciation, can we not do so in our interaction with them?

Part of the charm of the whole IRN thing is it's uniqueness. Starting to hand out titles everywhere has a detrimental effect on its value. It causes title-inflation, after a while people begin to feel that their title is not special enough. And they want a new one. Another one. Their sense of accomplishment dwindles, because everyone has done it. Etcetera. Example: In the early days of the game, titles were given to those who accomplished something: Getting a profession, in this case. It was a sign of dedication to whatever profession they had. After a while, almost everyone had one. There was no longer anything special about it. Doesn't matter where you draw the line, be it at gaining a profession or some ill-defined criteria judged on a case-by-case basis, it makes things less unique. And its uniqueness is what makes Iron Knights cool. It's something to aim for, knowing you might never reach it. But if you do: congrats.

But are titles not a recognition of something, rather than a goal by themselves?
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Re: Titles for other professions (not including myself)

Postby Luke Darkshadow » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:41 pm

How can they be a goal when you cant achieve them?
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Re: Titles for other professions (not including myself)

Postby Broutac » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:47 pm

My whole point is that titles for individuals are fine, but I believe that, being a rogue myself, maybe other professions could be recognized for the work they do for queen and country. Maybe they could have a role to play in the protection of the lands more visibly recognized. I have always been at the ready for raids and so forth but I must say that I would love to be among a group of my own, being rogues, who would be called upon in the event of a catastrophy to be sent out where ever needed the most.
Please answer me one simple question. What would be negative about this?
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Re: Titles for other professions (not including myself)

Postby Miranda of Admin » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:14 pm

The negatives have been pointed out.

I believe Ben fully addressed the reasons for IKs being selected from the warrior profession.

I will say right now that even if I were thinking of creating something for other professions, the aggressive and whiny tone of some in discussing it would put me off the idea instantly.

I will also say that suggesting people for titles is a very good way to make sure they do not ever get one. They are rare, and considered for a long time before they are given. Just because someone has been around for a long time, or they log in a lot... that doesn't merit a title, though it may contribute to it. I seriously doubt this conversation should go much further =)
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Re: Titles for other professions (not including myself)

Postby Broutac » Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:43 pm

understood. sorry for any bad feelings.
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